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Planned Breeding's:

BLUE  BREEDING

UPDATED 7/29/2010

Logan X Dru   
We will be trying this breeding in January 2011. 




TTS Under Pressure
Logan
Born Jun 8 2007
(CH EIO Danes Wild Blue Yonder X Tyners Shawnee V Sharcon)

Blue Great Dane Logan
OFA INFO
CHIC #59478


TTS Waiting In The Wings
"Dru"
(BISS CH Lamar's Sun Of Dreamaker X Tyners Shawnee V Sharcon)
Dru is currently 33 inches at the shoulders
PEDIGREE
YEP. . .very high in the rear right now. . .lol need to get a new picture!
Black Great Dane Dru




Blue color breeding:

Blue is recessive gene and it is also  a dilution gene. 

What does this mean?
All blue great danes are black danes with 2 copies of the dilution gene. This gene's job is  diluting all color.  This includes nose, skin, eye and hair color.  It is IMPOSSIBLE for a blue dane to have a black nose.  ALL pigment is diluted.  

What is with the recessive gene?
This means that both parents have to carry for the dilution in order for the offspring to be Blue. Blue danes are automatically carriers ( they carry 2 copies of the gene and there for ARE blue) , breed a blue to a blue and you will only get blue, they HAVE to pass a blue gene.  Fawn can also be carried recessively.

Blue danes do not "carry" for black, they ARE black, they just also have the dilution gene.  When 2 copies of the dilution gene are present you then get the diluted color blue.  
Black danes out of a black and a blue parent are automatically carriers for blue dilution ( the blue parent has to lend one) . Once you get out of this realm of relation the chance of carrying for blue decreases but the likelihood of "sticking" in the pedigree is likely and it should always be assumed to be  there until PROVEN not  through genetic base testing.


Degrees of white. . .those pesky white spots and blazes on chests. . .

  Breeding a dane with the least amount of white does not always guaranty that there will be no white in the puppies.  White is accumulative.  This means that if the sire is all blue but caries for a little white, and the dam is all black and carries for a little white, you may get puppies that have white blazes, white toes, nails that are white.  This is not the end of the world, but does need to be taken in to consideration when breeding. Some refer to white as "growing" in certain lines (Harl and Mantle color family).   With Black and other solid color danes, many times white present at birth will become close to non existent as they grow up.  This is referred to as "falling off".

Many ( most) blue and black lines have other colors in there pedigree if you go back far enough.  Especially german danes after the world wars,  cross color breeding was used to preserve the breed.  There are also techniques that are used to cross harl blacks, fawn bred blacks and even brindle bred blacks in to blue lines in order to bring type, size, bone and many other traits to lines that are "washed out".   These cross color breeding's  appear in our lines today, throwing colors that no respectable dane breeder would intentionally breed for.  Many of these colors fall in to the group " any other color resulting in a blue/black or black/blue breeding. " though incorrect they do make fantastic pets!


 "pure color breeding"

Breeders "claiming" pure color pedigree's are not special, they are not any better then any other breeder because they Have bred the same color to the same color over and over again.  The GDCA (recommended) color code  suggest that blue and blue bred blacks be bred only to each other. If blue to blue was only color ever bred you are reducing an already small gene pool in half. Harl bred blacks with little to no white can successfully be bred in to the blue/black, or black/blue danes with little to no problems. Doing this does nothing to the dogs health.  The occasional use of fawn also improves genetic diversity and TYPE in blue color families.

The more important consideration (over color) is health, breed type, personality and utility.  Though I do agree there should be separation between the colors, we want to point out that so called "pure" color lines are not in and of themselves any better then pedigree's with mixed color.
A dog does not stand on it's color
( any more then it move's on it's head, but that is a whole other discussion!)




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